On
this episode of The A
Game Podcast: Real Estate Investing for Entrepreneurs,
Nick Lamagna sits down with Jordan Samuel Fleming — real estate investor, SaaS
founder, and the co-founder of smrtPhone, the all-in-one cloud phone system and
power dialer built for real estate investors and high-volume sales
teams.
Jordan’s story is anything but typical: a
classically trained
musician turned tech strategist who went from building
systems in the Podio ecosystem to helping thousands of businesses
tighten their follow-up, track every touchpoint, and scale from a
couple deals a month to consistent high volume without burning
out.
You’ll hear the real “behind the curtain”
conversations that matter to investors right now:
✅ Why most investors stall at 1–2
deals/month (and what the best operators do differently)
✅ The fortune-in-the-follow-up framework: lead
buckets, consistent touchpoints, and why your CRM is full of “found
money”
✅ How power dialing, call logs,
recordings, and team accountability can expose leaks and
immediately increase conversions
✅ Real talk on cold calling, texting, and communication
compliance — and why doing the basics well still
wins
✅ Where AI in real estate is going next (and how
voice + automation will reshape acquisitions)
Jordan also shares insights from his new book
“Click. Call.
Scale.” — a practical playbook for building a phone-first
sales system that helps real estate investors close more deals
through better conversations, better data, and better
process. He also hosts the hit podcast That Real
Estate Tech Guy.
If you’re wholesaling, flipping, buying rentals,
running a acquisitions team, or building a real estate business
that needs more leads and better conversions, this episode is a
must.
Connect with Jordan / smrtPhone + grab the resources
mentioned:
Links are in the show
notes.
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